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Staging an ancient Greek play:

Attending a tragedy or comedy in 5th century BC Athens was in many ways a different experience than attending a play in the United States in the 20th century. To name a few differences, Greek plays were performed in an outdoor theater, used masks, and were almost always performed by a chorus and three actors (no matter how many speaking characters there were in the play, only three actors were used; the actors would go back stage after playing one character, switch masks and costumes, and reappear as another character). Greek plays were performed as part of religious festivals in honor of the god Dionysus, and unless later revived, were performed only once. Plays were funded by the polis, and always presented in competition with other plays, and were voted either the first, second, or third (last) place. Tragedies almost exclusively dealt with stories from the mythic past (there was no “contemporary” tragedy), comedies almost exclusively with contemporary figures and problems.


Deal with defeat

by Jerome Armstrong,
Sat May 10, 2008 at 02:05:25 AM EST

I’d humbly suggest, to all the Obama supporters that join us here on this blog, that if you can’t stand the heat of the West Virginia primary, you stay out of the kitchen. While I’m at it, I also suggest that you refrain from accusations against West Virginians as being racist, or you’ll join the other 6 previous users here, whose offensive comments were deleted on Friday, and that were themselves banned from the site. This is a political junkie website, we thrive on primary and election coverage. When Obama blew out Clinton in Wyoming, it was blogged excessively here, both in the run-up and the day of the event coverage, and it’ll be the same way with West Virginia. You don’t like that? Fine, its a big wide blogosphere, go find a blog that has its head in the sand. Are the ground rules understood?

May 10, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
Seeds of Destruction
By BOB HERBERT

The Clintons have never understood how to exit the stage gracefully.

Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace and class. So there was Hillary Clinton cold-bloodedly asserting to USA Today that she was the candidate favored by “hard-working Americans, white Americans,” and that her opponent, Barack Obama, the black candidate, just can’t cut it with that crowd.

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” said Mrs. Clinton.

There is, indeed. There was a name for it when the Republicans were using that kind of lousy rhetoric to good effect: it was called the Southern strategy, although it was hardly limited to the South. Now the Clintons, in their desperation to find some way — any way — back to the White House, have leapt aboard that sorry train.

He can’t win! Don’t you understand? He’s black! He’s black!

The Clintons have been trying to embed that gruesomely destructive message in the brains of white voters and superdelegates for the longest time. It’s a grotesque insult to African-Americans, who have given so much support to both Bill and Hillary over the years.

(Representative Charles Rangel of New York, who is black and has been an absolutely unwavering supporter of Senator Clinton’s White House quest, told The Daily News: “I can’t believe Senator Clinton would say anything that dumb.”)

But it’s an insult to white voters as well, including white working-class voters. It’s true that there are some whites who will not vote for a black candidate under any circumstance. But the United States is in a much better place now than it was when people like Richard Nixon, George Wallace and many others could make political hay by appealing to the very worst in people, using the kind of poisonous rhetoric that Senator Clinton is using now.

-All the worlds a stage…

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Written by Frederick

May 11th, 2008 at 3:01 am

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  1. It’s a comedy, the fact that so many alleged “progressive” followers still drink her Kool-Aid no matter how much of a vicious right-wing Nazi she becomes is hilarious. And they call Obama’s followers a “cult”.

  2. Great image. Ancient Greek theatre is quite fascinating.

    Lousy fucking election.

  3. DBK

    Other comedies are the belief that Obama is even a little progressive (I smoked pot too, but that didn’t make me a progressive and it didn’t make Obama one, nor does dark skin make on a progressive) and the notion that there isn’t a racial divide in Democratic voting in the primaries. Another comedy is a columnist writing about Clinton’s lack of class and grace because she pointed out the racial divide in the voting and the also way the columnist didn’t say a word about Clinton’s repeated statements that if Obama won the nomination, she would fall in step behind him and give him her complete support.

    Of course, Obama supporters will now think I am a “Clinton supporter” or “drinking Kool-aid” or some other notion that demonstrates less about me than about the jejune characteristics of some of Obama’s supporters. Noticeably absent yet again in any of these discussions is a mention of anyone’s policy positions.

    Policy positions don’t matter when picking a candidate. What matters are the names you call the other candidate.

  4. Agi

    Fauxgressive!

  5. LOL, DBK, you are something else. Thanks for taking note that I quoted both sides of the equation on this issue.

    Obama wins on policy and in every other category, hands down. The only category where Clinton comes even close is health care and as I’ve said before, if anyone thinks something is getting done in this country on that topic they’re smoking crack.

  6. DBK

    You quoted Armstrong saying “Bug off” and you quoted Herbert calling the Clinton’s all kinds of nasty things. Was that your version of balance?

  7. How you can view the Rightwing tactics of the Clinton campaign as “Progressive” is beyond me. But I have an idea. You’re not swaying anyone here with comments to the effect that Obama is not a Progressive. The way “Progressives” are acting these days becoming more and more reprehensible. Progressives are smearing the term Progressive just as Liberals smeared the term Liberal.

    What did Herbert say that was nasty? He simply summed up the Clinton campaign strategy. I included Armstrong’s comment for balance as it shows certain segments are unable to deal with the reality right in front of their eyes, and thus in what is becoming a disturbing “progressive” trend, shutting down debate.

    No wonder Clinton found the O’Reilly Factor a natural medium.

  8. DBK

    When did I say Clinton was progressive? She’s a corporate shill, just like Obama. There’s not an unacceptable word’s hair’s difference between the two of them as far as I can see. As for Herbert:

    “Their repertoire has always been deficient in grace and class.”

    Um, I see what you mean. That was really sweet of him.

    You know what? Your pal Ace here lacks both grace and class. And that’s a compliment.

    Also, inre Herbert, I refer you to Somerby on the Cult of the Offhand Comment. Herbert and his ilk have really gone to town on that one, the same way they did with Obama’s “bitter” remark. It’s utter bullshit and if you want to talk about something shutting down debate, there it is right in front of your eyes.

    It’s the same story the crow told me. It’s the only one he knows.

  9. Sometimes I think people are just being willfully ignorant. Eh, screw em.

  10. DBK

    If you read HuffPo, you may as well be reading the NY Post or LGF. That site is about as objective as the others I named.

  11. Dude, now you sound like someone from LGF.

  12. DBK

    Fauxgressive!

    Have you joined the Cult of the Offhand Comment? I understand they have membership cards and vacation packages.

    I live in a silver mine and I call it Beggar’s Tomb.

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